Curse

Syntonic · May 25, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Man, did everyone here just miss all the complaints from people saying that being able to unlock skins from previous PvE only things would screw over the economy etc etc. etc and that they wouldn't be satisfied unless it was very difficult to unlock etc etc etc? Where was your voice then? It was thread after thread after thread till they moved on to the next complaint of the day.

I don't like the fact that it's not an account wide unlock either but geez, it's very little wonder why Anet has to PAY someone to read the forums with all the complaints that go back and forth. :P

Neo Nugget · May 25, 2007, 02:50 AM // 02:50

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Originally Posted by Skye Marin

Does anyone know what a "Golden Flame of Balthazar" does? I have 25 reward points and I'm kinda uneasy about blowing them all at once. One costs 15.

maybe it gives you 10k faction, since the normal one give's 1k faction. im not sure though.

Dragonious · May 25, 2007, 02:52 AM // 02:52

Golden Flames give you 3k faction. Enough for an elite skill. No more. No less. Enjoy.

Hello Kitty · May 25, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by Snype

The two bolded statements dont fit together. Please read other posts and understand how the reward system actually works before defending it please.

Maybe you don't understand the system... I don't understand why you think Anet is deleting your reward items.

manitoba1073 · May 25, 2007, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

That wasn't a "farm and that wasn't a "run." That was pretty much an exploit, and yes, it's been closed. You can get the full update notes (We have asked the Web Team to post up the missing line, because we have no intention of engaging in any "stealth updates" but that one was added later and didn't make the list. We hope to have it in place as soon as we can reach someone.)

Relayed to QA, and thank you.

Yes it was a farm, and not an exploit. So I guess letting creatures do what they are supposed to do now is an exploit?

It would have been a perfect update, but it makes you wonder whats next. No exp or drops from stuff killing themselves of traps and that.

blackbane · May 25, 2007, 03:25 AM // 03:25

stop flaming

VitisVinifera · May 25, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26

I was gonna let Gaile's semantics spin go, but I gotta agree, it's NOT an exploit, it was the result of a creative and insightful player who analyzed a situation, came up with a result, and applied it, all within fair gameplay.

Gaile: stop blaming the players. Sure it needed a nerf (though not as much as some FIXES to this game are needed)

Seissor · May 25, 2007, 03:30 AM // 03:30

Bunny's rant.

I am very disappointed in the Tournament Rewards system. It's up there with the HoH double chest drop weekend (simple maths tell us how many ppl can benefit from that and most of the community DIDNT).

Im in a guild that gvg's 2-3 times a day 5 days a week. We've competed in a tournament and faired pretty ok, enough to get me 6 tourney points.

Now to unlock the most basic of basics, reqs 10 points. And as I understand, this isnt even an account unlock.
Then you spend 10 points to unlock each piece of armor, 50 points to unlock a set.

Now all the leetist die hard never stop gvging people should stop reading and go away because you dont represent the bulk of the GW community.

The average GW player, casual gamer if you will (which GW claims to cater to, along with player skill not eliteness forward slash rank) wont actually get to benefit from these rewards as for one reason or another they wont be getting any or many tourney points.

Not all guilds can gvg in a tourney as there are many reasons
1: timezone conflict
2: work/study
3: lack of guild skill to win or compete in top 10-50
4: lack of members in guild
5: lack of members online
6: members dont like gvg

Sure you can do hero battles, but please, hero battles is mainly R6-9+ players on their sin with an sf ele and 2 monks. Like, total skill involved there.

So the bulk of GW players wont see any benefit from tourney rewards. I would have much rather seen tourney rewards cheaper or reserved for very high end unlocks. EG, rare skins or elite/15k armors. And Balth faction used for standard armor, basic/common skins.

Even members of the pvp community get boned with this current update, ab'ers, ra'ers, ta'ers all pvp and would love some skins to bling themselves up but even if they are highly skilled and have a plethora of balth and titles its useless unless they run along and find an active, competent gvg guild and then play gvg as much as they do ha, ab, ta etc.

I would like to see tourney points be used to unlock only high end rare skinned items, but balth faction to be used to unlock common armor/items. So more people can enjoy the fruits of their labor. And yes it is hard to gvg, my guild has lost about 2/3'rds of it's members over the past 10 months because they've found GW doesn't deliver in comparison to other games.

On a side note, thank you anet for what you've done with the armor, it's greatly appreciated that insignias have now been adopted globally. And the new help feature is also welcomed. I really like how what used to be knights armor is now called templar armor, the male 15k knights/templar armor does indeed remind me of the knights templar if dyed red :P

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IllusiveMind · May 25, 2007, 03:31 AM // 03:31

Hmm this update is working wonders at GoK. I have already got 4 Radiant Insignias in 2 runs. Now I can upgrade my monk heroes.

Nebulaz · May 25, 2007, 03:32 AM // 03:32

Great update...this means i dont have to get all my chars to NF to buy inscribable armor

Entering an elite mission 30 times an hour is definitely an exploit. glad this was fixed!

VitisVinifera · May 25, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37

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Originally Posted by Nebulaz

Entering an elite mission 30 times an hour is definitely an exploit. glad this was fixed!

you can still enter elite missions 30 times an hour. You hit 'enter mission' button. Is hitting the 'enter mission' button an exploit?

Nebulaz brings up a great point: there are some great armor skins in Factions that people such as myself held off on buying because they weren't inscribable.

Tachyon · May 25, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

I like the 'Help' option, saves me from minimizing and navigating to the required article myself, not that it's difficult but mainly because I'm a lazy git!

One thing I'd like to see is the implementation of an in-game browser, much like the kneeboard in Microsofts Flight Simulator, so the game doesn't need to be minimised to view the Wiki articles. Many time I've been flying around in Flight Sim and surfing the web via the kneeboard and thought "how come more games don't do this?"!

xshadowwolfx · May 25, 2007, 03:44 AM // 03:44

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Originally Posted by IllusiveMind

Hmm this update is working wonders at GoK. I have already got 4 Radiant Insignias in 2 runs. Now I can upgrade my monk heroes.

Hmm, where is this GoK?

HKSdivision · May 25, 2007, 03:45 AM // 03:45

Great update Anet! I especially like how Prophecies and Factions armor now have insignia slots! Now to buy 15k Knights!

drekmonger · May 25, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

Personally, I just wanted a sword that doesn't look like a crappy dagger on my pvp chars. The way its been done though, only the elite can afford to throw away reward points like this, which basically does make it an e-peen thing.

There are over 20 sword skins in the basic weapon rewards, some of them very nice looking. That's just 10 Tournament points.

You can win that blindfolded. You don't even have to place in the top 8, just win 10 matches across any tournaments in HvH. Less in GvG.

Honestly, you can grab reward points in 1v1 easily if you can stomach the crappy meta. I can't stomach the crappy meta (I resign out of matches that bore me regardless of wether or not I can win), and yet still snagged 20 reward points in a single tournament.

And hopefully, that meta will improve soon. --hopefully-- -----HOPEFULLY-----

manitoba1073 · May 25, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46

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Originally Posted by Nebulaz

Entering an elite mission 30 times an hour is definitely an exploit. glad this was fixed!

Never heard of farming I take it.

Kaleban · May 25, 2007, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

That wasn't a "farm" and that wasn't a "run." That was pretty much an exploit, and yes, it's been closed. You can get the full update notes here. (We have asked the Web Team to post up the missing line, because we have no intention of engaging in any "stealth updates" but that one was added later and didn't make the list. We hope to have it in place as soon as we can reach someone.)

It was a "farm" and it was a "run." It was pretty much not an exploit, and yet it was nerfed.

Amazing how two people see things differently depending on how it affects them. According to that kind of logic, zoning, killing a few things, then re-zoning is an exploit, regardless of where you do it. Strange, and here I thought ANet wasn't against FARMING?

What's most amusing is that the requirements to get to the Elite Mission areas are generally outside the purview of bots, due to the requirements of Passage Scrolls or a town owning guild ferrying people there, and I hardly can see large guilds ferrying bots to elite areas lol.

Instead of arbitrarily removing the ability to gain loot or expereince completely, why not just change the skills used? Obviously, this would still alter the ability for "suicide running" but at least the solution would not seem as ham fisted and out of touch with reality as this one.

Ah well, just another change that further drives me to the edge of leaving. Its funny, but at this point, the ONLY thing that keeps me playing is my guildmates, the game itself has ceased to be very enjoyable on its own merit some time ago. Without the social interaction (available in ANY MMO by the way) of guilds, this game would not exist. I can't really call general public interaction fun, its like trying to talk to a friend at the other end of a nightclub in hushed tones while there's music blasting "WTS... WTS... WTS...YEAH!" and people screaming and shouting.

Something that would have been greatly alleviated by a fully functioning auction house, a minor and/or inconsequential issue according to ANet's priority list, never mind the fact that the general playerbase has been requesting it since, oh, the game's inception.

zerulus · May 25, 2007, 03:58 AM // 03:58

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Originally Posted by manitoba1073

Never heard of farming I take it.

I don't see why they would label it an exploit, but it obviously was an oversight on anet's part. I highly doubt they intended to have level 24 or w/e level the those things were, suicide and just drop gold items and loads of experience into your lap.

Age · May 25, 2007, 03:59 AM // 03:59

I would really like to see this update reverted back untill the devs can fix all the glitches and leave account armours alone.I would only change those that the crafters make up.There are several armour glitches in this update as well the template code.

xshadowwolfx · May 25, 2007, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Anyone have a screenshot of the pvp skin unlock rewards =D